This blog is a forum for our class to discuss ideas for writing, comment on readings, and generally communicate outside of the classroom about various topics in reading and writing.
Tuesday, September 27, 2011
George Orwell
George Orwell - Blog #3
Monday, September 26, 2011
George Orwell- Blog #3
As I first began to read Orwell’s article, I instantly disagreed with his thoughts towards his belief on the English language. I believed that he was just simply targeting it out of his anger towards his opinion that which many writers were careless towards their writing, putting in less effort than necessary. Due to the “bad influence” from the political and economical language, Orwell states that the English language is filled with bad habits which triggers it all. He wants to make it clear to us that as we read the five examples he has chosen, that they are not the worst. He criticizes the work just to make more comments towards the ugliness of these “average” pieces of writing.
Orwell states later in his article, “But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought. A bad usage can spread by tradition and imitation, even among people who should and do know better.” By this statement, he is inferring that as writers of the English language, we should not be ugly writers and know how to be a better ones. He is contradicting himself in a way by saying that the English language has adapted to more of an ugly form but as inaccurate writers, we should know what we are doing wrong.
In today's day and age, I believe that Orwell would consider the English language even more inaccurate than he believed back in 1946. It is only a given that as the years precede, that the English language is just going to continually adapt to its current society and environment.
George Orwell
At the beginning of the article, George Orwell begins talking about how bad we have made the English language, and how it is not impossible to fix it, just tricky. He says that the reason the English language is bad now is because of our misuse of metaphors and fancy words as an attempt to impress others. While I agree that it makes the English language look bad when people continually butcher the meanings of fancy words to try to sound smart, I disagree with his comment, “The point is that the process is reversible. Modern English, especially written English, is full of bad habits which spread by imitation and which can be avoided if one is willing to take the necessary trouble.” By stating this, Orwell is saying that there is still hope for the English language as long as someone is willing to put in the effort to correct it. I don’t believe it would ever be possible for someone to completely change how everyone communicates. People nowadays have been in the habit of using the same bad English, as Orwell describes it, that I don’t think it can ever be reversed. Especially nowadays with how popular slang words and “text language” are, I think it would be impossible for one individual or even multiple people to change that for everyone. I believe that if Orwell were to write the same thing today, he would be much more dissatisfied with the English language and how improper it has become, rather than too proper.
What’s an English Language? - By Doug West
What’s an English Language?
I have a firm grasp on the Anglio Saxion based English language complimented by a plethora of common English sayings and phrases, and I am a human dictionary when it comes to word lexicon. No, I’m kidding. The quality of the use of the English language has been deteriorating since 1946. I’m not even sure if my first sentence makes any sense and I looked up all of those words on Google. If Microsoft Word did not have spell check, half of the words on this paper would be spelled wrong. Some examples of the English language deterioration can be found in internet or cell phone communication. “I less than three you.” Also known as “I <3 u” or “I heart (love) you”. In the effort to make texting and typing as simple and efficient as possible, the art of writing a sentence with correct grammar and spelling has disappeared. As another example, I will break down and analyze the following text message I received not too long ago: “OMG… MY BFF Jill! J”. George Orwell would have a heart attack reading this text message. There is no sentence structure, two cases of acronyms, three periods used improperly as a sentence break, “MY” should not all be capitalized, and a smiley face to express emotion. This form of communication, known as “text messaging”, is destroying the English language. Texting is normally associated with teenagers, but I beg you to think again. My mother and father over the last couple of years have caught onto the text messaging culture and now text message just about the same way I do. Our generation has created a texting and messaging language that is highly efficient, but defies all the laws to the English language. If George Orwell was alive today he would say that our generation has destroyed the art of writing.
George Orwell Nick Lutz
George Orwell
George Orwell
George Orwell begins his argument with the idea that all of the bad habits in the English language start with foolish thoughts. He explains that the effectiveness of one’s writing has to do with the clarity of one’s thoughts. I believe that he pretty much covers everything prevalent at the time he was writing this criticism of the English language. He really goes in depth about how sloppy people get with something as simple as communicating. Human beings express themselves through words every single day, so one would think that every person in the world have mastered the skills of speaking and writing by now. I agree with his statement, “It is often easier to make up words of this kind than to think up the English words that will cover one's meaning. The result, in general, is an increase in slovenliness and vagueness.” He is basically saying that the use of creative language and intellectual wordage of phrases is dead. The English language allows one to become extremely lazy, while still being able to get his/her point across. It’s a shame that people aren’t able to communicate to the best of their abilities solely because they refrain from taking risks, and stick to simple statements. If this article were to be published in this day and age, I think he would have an entire page about the upcoming and use of technology to enhance one’s writing abilities. There is nothing more frustrating to the use of slang or abbreviated words in because of technology and instant messaging. Technology can be a good thing but people rely on spellcheck to keep them from having a poorly constructed paper, and tell them when the sentence is a fragment.
George Orwell
George Orwell Post
George Orwell is criticizing “ugly and inaccurate” modern written English. Orwell is basically saying exactly what he stated when he stated that “the great enemy of clear language is insincerity” (Orwell). He is essentially saying that the insincerity of the writer continues the downward spiral of language as people trying beating around the bush when phrasing their words. At first I did not agree with Orwell’s assertions, but as I read on I began to understand what Orwell was trying to state in his essay. Since Orwell believed that writing to hide your feelings/intentions was more accurate rather than writing to express your feelings. Poor writing habits spread from lack of confidence and writers need to get rid of these feelings and think more clearly. Writers of modern prose tend to not write in concrete terms but use “pretentious latinized style,” and he then compares a biblical text with a parody in modern English to emphasize what he means. By incorporating politicians into his speech, Orwell makes it easier to relate to our society and to think about whether speeches would be better if politicians chose to write them themselves. Because the politicians do not write the essays themselves, their essays come off as less empathetic. With this being said, people generally have a harder time believing what politicians have to say. I still think Orwell would state the same argument to this day that he did in 1946 because we are still going through the same issues. What he stated could still be applied to our English Language to this day.
George Orwell
George Orwell Post
Orwell thinks that if we remove our bad habits from the English language then we will be able to think more clearly and then our politics will make more sense. When I read this I thought, “No our politicians are just idiots,” but after reading more I realized that he was right. In the first several paragraphs when he gives examples of how language is misused, I understood what he was talking about. Politicians cannot write and therefore we have no idea what they are trying to say. They misuse metaphors that are commonly known to the public, and bring up metaphors that no one has ever heard of. They also throw around words that the average person will not understand and other meaningless words that cause the reader to lose the meaning of what is being said. I agree with Orwell when he is talks about the speeches and says, “they are all alike in that one almost never finds in them a fresh, vivid, home-made turn of speech.” The speeches all the politicians are giving are old and boring and there is no reason for us to listen to them. When they do know what they are talking about they say it in a way to make it vague enough that they almost don’t even chose a side they just bring up a topic. They are doing what Orwell described as, “Naming things without calling up mental pictures of them.” If politicians would just say what they mean and say it in a way that people would understand them then they might make some sense and get something accomplished.
George Orwell Politics Blog Post
Another issue in the paper I’d like to address is Orwell’s six rules. As I look back at the paper’s I have written, I’ve noticed I make many of the mistakes he says not to. This leads me to believe that the collapse of language has only decreases since 1946. Being a student I take many classes where the teachers require research papers with a certain number of words. This leads students, like me, to add in words that are unnecessary and add long words to make the paper sound professional. Orwell didn’t include this as a reason in his paper but it could be included under the government having an impact on our language.
George Orwell Blog # 3
George Orwell writes about how the English written language has become “ugly and inaccurate” in his essay, Politics and the English Language. He believed that writers in his day tried to make their work sound intelligent and bright by using big words and difficult vocabulary. However, the only problem with this is that it makes the piece of literature hard to read and understand. Orwell believes that you should substitute brainy and confusing language for one that was much simpler and to the point. I agree with Orwell in the sense that authors should make what they write direct and to the point; although, if he were to publish an article on the written language today, I do not think he would have the same perspective. Since this article was published, our language has evolved into something that is certainly simpler. I believe that people today have become lazy and only write in a very simple fashion. Articles that sound brainy and confusing are now harder to find. These days people are used to things such as texting and instant messaging. Everything is abbreviated, or shortened. I think that we are starting to get used to this kind of language and it is being interpreted into our writing. Something that should be simple, like knowing when to use “your” instead of “you’re”, is proving to be difficult to a lot of writers these days because they are so used to just sending the shortest response. I believe that Orwell’s wish may have come true but to a greater extent than what he was thinking of.
Sunday, September 25, 2011
George Orwell Reading
George Orwell Post, Mick Bodenheimer
George Orwell argues that the true English Anglo Saxon language is diminishing because of its misuse. He says that our use of language in modern writing only creates “slovenliness and vagueness.” I agree with Mr. Orwell completely because it follows what I have mentioned a few times in my papers and what I have been trained to do as a writer. The simple word is always the better word. That is my opinion and I believe George Orwell would agree with that. I have seen it with classmates and even with myself sometimes that we try to pretty up our prose with fancy words that make it seem like we are true academic writers when in fact all we do is make our meaning blurred and harder to understand. I had no idea what the author in that first passage was trying to say. I read it out loud to myself a few times and still couldn’t comprehend it. Yet, we all write like that sometimes. Its what we are used to seeing. The four questions Orwell presents on page four are, in my opinion, perfect for any writer who is writing to a broad audience. Nobody wants to listen to someone rant about something that they can’t understand. Its boring and most often puts me to sleep to be honest. But something relevant and something that is creative is always more catching to the mind. To search for the right word is a quest that every true writer should be excited to venture out upon. You are aiming to create something of pure originality, not to spit up some retro metaphor or phrase that sure helps you get across your point, but then lacks being your own example. There is a saying that a picture is worth a thousand words, but I feel like George Orwell could get his meaning across in a hundred.
Blog Post #3 - Politics and the English Language Response
Write about 250 words in response to the George Orwell reading. What is he saying about language? Do you agree/disagree with Orwell's assertions about language? Have you noticed any examples of a "collapse in language" he didn't mentioned? This article was published in 1946; what might he say differently if it were published now? (due by 11:59PM on Monday 9/26)
Also, respond to two of your classmates' blog posts by class on Friday 9/30.
Monday, September 19, 2011
Peer Editing Post
Thursday, September 15, 2011
Project #1 Thoughts-Patrick Toohers
Peer Editing
Wednesday, September 14, 2011
Peer Editing- Samuel Owens
Until I read Chapter 10 in the textbook, I was unaware that the techniques I demonstrate when I peer edit are actually part of a peer editing process. The only difference is that sometimes I overlook the organization step in the peer editing process. I feel that once I manage to organize papers better, my peer editing skills will be at a new level. If I was to make a change to the pyramid, I would add the importance of formatting. Proper MLA formatting in a paper is critical if one expects a good grade. Therefore, attention to proper formatting should always be taken into consideration.
Peer Editing
Peer Edit
Peer editing
Once me and my partner switched papers, I realized that i did know more then I thought about litterature. Although I know I missed some stuff, I hope I helped my partner out and helped him write a better essay. I now look forward to more peer editing in the future because it gives someone else a chance to read your paper before the teacher does. Also i learned a lot from it because he saw things that i missed or only made sense to me. Overall I think it was a huge help and am glad we are doing it and think my papers will be better because of it.
Peer Editing- Danielle Drumheller
Peer Editing-Patrick Toohers
Peer Editing and the Tiny Bird that Flew
Peer Editing and the Tiny Bird that Flew
Douglas West
There are some people that are good at cooking food. I am a terrible cook and I cannot even add milk to cereal. On the flip side there are great consumers of food like the great American Joey Chestnut who can consume sixty two hot dogs in twelve minutes. I am a great consumer of food, not a creator. How does this apply to peer editing? I am a consumer of editing advice and terrible at creating good advice, if any at all. Whatever paper I read gets very little and poor advice. Whoever reads my paper is often overloaded with work because of the plethora of mistakes I make with grammar, spelling, word choice, and other such spelling mistakes. Now with this said I would like to thank my partner for all the great corrections he or she made to my paper anonymously on this blog without mentioning Megan’s name.
In regards to book, my editing style was pretty similar to how chapter ten describes the process. First, I read the entire essay and looked for any structure mistakes and fluency of the idea the paper was trying to get apart. Second, I read the essay a second time slowly looking for grammatical mistakes. That’s just about all that I do. I am a great reader but I am not a great editor.
The only difference was how relaxed and fun the environment was. Never met this person before and I’m nervous about how she is going to judge my paper. I am going to open up on this blog and tell you my deepest secret. There is nothing more in the world that I am more self-conscious about than my writing and ideas. There I said it. As she reads my paper I am as nervous as a mother bird watching her baby bird jump off a cliff for the first time to see if it can fly. Then my partner and I start to talk about each other papers. She loved my paper! She corrected a lot of my grammar mistakes which I greatly appreciated as well. The editing process does not have to be so formal and robot like. It takes away all of the fun in the paper. Giving a friend some positive supportive advice is all a paper needs to come alive with information and entertainment. Let your words jump off a cliff and see if your tiny ideas can fly. “Words are easy, like the wind”-William Shakespear.
Peer Editing- Riley McGhee
I think that peer editing is definitely a positive activity for the class to partake in. It is beneficial to not only the writer, but the reader as well. Seeing someone else’s perspective can always help you formulate new ideas and touch up your paper. Of course, it is also always very difficult for the writer to catch his or her own grammatical mistakes, or any mistakes for that matter in his or her paper. However, when you are reading someone else’s paper, the mistakes can be glaring in comparison to your own, and they are easier to spot.
I think that other than a proof read and maybe bouncing a couple of ideas off of someone, there isn’t really much more of a need for peer editing. Any other editing work that is needed on a paper I feel can be done, and most likely will need to be done, on your own. Having someone look at your paper is most definitely a plus, but I would never be one to say that it is essential. So it being a part of the editing process as the book says is bogus in my opinion. Really any formula for an editing process is invalid because everyone has their own formula for how they edit, as we discovered in the drawing activity the first week of school.
To tie things up, I personally believe the peer editing process to be useful in my own editing process. I also feel that for the majority of students, peer editing is advantageous in comparison to a system that eradicates that step.
Tuesday, September 13, 2011
Peer Editing- Victoria Winkler
Peer editing is a process that has been taught since the very beginning. Memories of peer editing short picture book stories of my fellow second graders all the way back in elementary school. Even though we were just taught the very basics, it was a great place to start. As I got older and moved on to more advanced classes, editing became more sophisticated and had to be taken in more of a serious matter given writing became a more important aspect in our academic lives. Editing has become second nature and is done without even noticing sometimes. If you think about it, we are constantly editing. Whenever anything is written, it is almost always re-read or at least scanned over to check for any obvious errors or mistakes.
The peer editing process that we demonstrated yesterday in class was very relaxed in the sense that we were merely just attempting to help each other improve our writing and edit unnoticed mistakes. It was clear that we were obviously not trying to offend or be disrespectful towards the writing, just make come up with creative suggestions to improve the essay.
As talked about in the chapter 10, the editing process is very clear and easy to understand and go by. The process steps seemed to actually follow the editing process that I have been using for my many years throughout grade school. The only aspect that I probably would do different is have the editor read the essay to themselves rather than the writer read it aloud because it would definitely be easier for the editor to come across mistakes and punctuation errors that they notice.
Peer Editing Michael "Bodie" Bodenheimer
Peer editing is something that has floated in and out of my writing process throughout my high school career. Some teachers emphasized it while others stuck to personal revision and editing. In the past I have usually found it beneficial but only when working with someone who was either on the same level of writing or higher. Because giving my draft to someone who is either 1) uninformed about the topic or the style of writing or 2) not the most careful of readers doesn’t really benefit the peer editor or myself.
However, in the class editing that we did on Monday, that was not the case. My partner and I seemed to compliment each other well and were able to go back and forth on each other’s papers regarding grammar mistakes, idea clarification, as well as phraseology. It wasn’t critiquing the person it was critiquing the work. I believe it takes a level of maturity to be able to do that which is why it is most beneficial in a college atmosphere to employ this style of revision.
In comparing to the ideas expressed in chapter 10, I think our style was a little more relaxed then the steps laid out on page 275. It was merely one on one editing rather then the whole group. However, we did read over the draft completely while taking notes and were able to give well-constructed critiques as well as compliments about the writing. And going along with another idea about editing vs. revision, I think it is best to keep the peer editing groups just at editing like we did. Throwing in a revision process would only make some students feel lesser compared to others. It is ultimately up to the teacher to do those evaluations, which is why the conferences are a bonus.